The 3rd episode of the anime gave us the official name of the Water Strider: "Prometheus". I guess in this case (maybe they will do the same with other Objects later) we should rename the page and add the official name, right? Should we also make a note that the offical name comes from the anime?
I was checking the japanese wikipedia Heavy Object page in a whim when I noticed something useful, it has all the Object's specifications. Even if no one else wants to translate them we can always use Google Translate, they seem simple enough. I already used it to complete the Baby Magnum's specs, but do you think I should use it for other Objects?
Curiously the page also has the specs for the Aphrodite/Strategic Antenna. I was not aware Kamachi had given those, but maybe the spec illustrations was simply not scanned with the rest of the short story. Still, I'll wait for your opinion before adding them to its page.
Then I'll be adding the Object specs to the sandbox until we verify them and add them to the actual articles.
@Herald of meridian
Are we putting all the specifications in the infoboxes? I don't really mind, but should I stop putting them under Design like I've been doing until now? I ask because you didn't remove them in the Baby Magnum article, though maybe you forgot to do so.
The page layouts are fine, although we should focus on making sure there's content to work with anyway. As for adding a collapse function to infoboxes, well, the main problem is that we've breached what seems to be an argument limit (20 args, which goes way back to the default infobox template) to the template editor in the Visual Editor. Mainly, the Designer argument isn't showing up, although you can still use the Source Editor to add it. I might end up merging the two Armaments arguments into one and make some more adjustments. Personally, having a long infobox isn't a problem with pieces of tech like Objects, since Gundam specs also take up a lot of space over at the Gundam Wiki.
I added all the Object specs to the sandbox, so feel free to check them and verify the translations, I'm sure I made a lot of mistakes. I left some comments when the specs didn't include something from the novels (some are understandable like the Garuda specs hiding its second main cannon).
The jp wikipedia also has specs for the Snipe Laser 051. I'm sure that those didn't come in a spec illustatrion. Not that it matters, like the Stealth Object most are "unknown".
The only specs left are the Harpuiai and the tiltrotor gunship which have a different format. Well, left until next volume, which brings six more Objects.
...what I had meant back then with regards to verification was to verify where the stats had come from, though it would still be a good idea to double-check to make sure that mistakes haven't occurred during transfer.
I've made an infobox for non-Object vehicles so we'll be able to apply that for the Harpuiai and the gunship.
IMO it might be easier if Objects are called by their LK codename since it's the one we almost always get and the most used in the narration. I think only Snipe Laser 051 and Ratri lack a LK codename, the first one because we saw it from the perspective of its Elite and the second from Mariydi's. For those we should use the official codename.
In the infobox of each Object article we could have an official codename fieldwith the official codename of its faction if available or Unknown if not. For additional names beyond those two like in the cases of Rush and Simple is Best maybe we could put those in Trivia like The Capitalist Corporations's codename for the Rush is Henrietta.
Don't know if that would be appropriate with the Early States and the "colorful" LK codename Quenser and Heivia made up for it. XD
Unrelated, but those Object profile illustrations in the LNs would be perfect info for the infoboxes, shame only two have been translated.
Slightly leaning towards real name for article title at the moment (LK if not available). I was thinking that additional names could be mentioned in the initial opening paragraph for the Object articles. There is also a codenames field in the Object infobox template, which I was thinking could be used for different faction codenames (and could be divided further if required).
That would be fine for the Legitimacy Kingdom Objects, but the other 3 factions don't have their official codenames (that's what you mean when you say real name, right?) for all their Objects. I guess for those we would use their LK codename?
Ah, I hadn't noticed it until now, but yeah, it's CMB in the illustration of Vol 1 and the PV (unrelated, but I just realized they moefied the 37th sticker like they did on the first manga). There must be some discrepancies between Js06 and Kamachi's japanese to english translation. Since CMB seems to be the official initials I guess we should use them and make a note about the english fan translation being different. We probably should prepare for a similar issue with Quenser, wasn't his name spelled as Qwenthur recently in the Dengeki Bunko fighter game?
What does CMB stand for? Something Mobile Battalion?
Another minor thing for consideration; for the articles concerning districts and other similar areas, for the main article titles, include or exclude the latter part (i.e. Alaska/Alaska District)? What do you both reckon?
What does the original Japanese say? If they use District the same way subdivisions of Japan's territory are called Prefectures, then District should stay. After all, since there's only four "countries", Districts acting like very large provinces would make sense.
Not 100% certain, but there's a secondary source extract in the sandbox. There appear to be instances of both versions being used in the text, but it could very well be along those lines you described.
Another minor thing, should I proceed or not proceed with the draft in the sandbox, and if yes, any preferences as to how you'd like it done?
Nihongo template and Districts implemented. Probably not going to get everything done in time and TSPs might well have to be used for a good few sections for now. Regarding Terminology/Translation Guide, which is your preferred title, Herald? Also, do you reckon it would OK to put a small section near the start detailing the nature of translation, art, circumstances, differences and whatnot? (it'd probably take a while - it's one of those areas where I'm usually unsure what would be best to put and end up taking ages trying to decide)
I wasn't sure whether you wanted it as a temporary thing in the sandbox or an actual article/entry; I probably should have phrased my earlier question better, as proceeding with it as an article or not once it was complete was what I had in mind when I asked it. Sorry about that.
Another question; would you like a draft made for a Manual of Style or Layout Guide?
I was thinking about assembling a list in the sandbox regarding the beverage theme naming for various characters and then, once confirmed, transferring information to Etymology sections on the respective pages. Is this OK with both of you?
Also, Herald, it would appear that a possible troublemaker has turned up.
Just to clarify, I wasn't thinking of a separate section on the main articles for the whole list itself; I was just thinking of notes in Etymology for the relevant characters to give information as to where the character's name comes from. Is that not OK?
The kind is potential vandal (appears to be blocked elsewhere at the moment and seems to have carried out possible vandalism (inserting false information and structure disruption) here yesterday evening/early this morning).
I don't think it's outright vandalism, at least not at the level of taking out entire chunks of content and replacing it with obscene language. To me, it's a guy who just doesn't know a single thing about editing on wikis. Just keep a close watch on the guy and undo/revise anything that he tries to add that's not consistent with canon. Fortunately, his edits are small enough to be monitored with ease.
LazyHunter mentioned that Kamachi is apparently going to be doing a side-story to be released with the anime in a similar fashion to the Toaru series. If this is the case, would you like the article's name and structure to follow the currently used volume format (e.g. Side Story Volume 01)?
If you remember what you had in mind when you originally created the currently-used infoboxes here, did you have some convention intentions in mind when you made them?
Understood (I haven't found a reference to use for it yet).
Well, I wasn't exactly sure of the circumstances that might have been behind those infoboxes (from scratch, copy, bit of both)(intention, not intention), so I thought I should check (and not presume). One thing I was wondering was; when you created the infobox with the licensed name fields (I know why there are multiple ones), did you intend for them to not necessarily determine the main name? (I was a bit unsure about asking because I was worried I might possibly be (not sure if this is an accurate way to put this) treading on a potential landmine)
P.S. Does the Layout Guide look OK to you? Also, apologies for lack of images.
As always, I'll be pushing for synopsis articles for up to the latest episode.
I've also checked the Sandbox. I think each argument needs a definition. For example, in the Object template, we should clarify that the "name" argument is reserved for the official name, not the codenames designated by the Four Powers.
I'll update the template documentation to clarify it. I've also tried to amend an error in my earlier question. By synopsis articles, are you referring to the episode/chapter articles? If so, I'll continue work on the subject articles as before (closer to further) and prepare TSPs for the main four.
Question regarding Layout Guide and earlier reply; do you want a description of section content beside the section headings?
Another critical point may be coming soon. I'm hoping that there won't be too many problems regarding influx and displacement, naming conflicts, blind officialism/anti-officialism, disregarding aspects, impatience, or anything else like that (and those various other things I have trouble describing), though it remains a worry, as usual.
Published. I've added an extra bit to the notes regarding images to clarify use of them for the galleries (i.e. an appropriate selection illustrating the subject rather than just any old image of them).
On that note, apologies for asking this when you're already quite busy, but if it is OK, could you help with sorting out some of the images that were added earlier? (I'm slightly restricted in this area)
I started doing the pages for the Gigant Hustler's new Objects, but I could only do the Spider Joust and ECM110 ones since the other 4 Objects are already redirected to Volume 10's page. I guess that those redirections have to be deleted before creating the pages, but I don't think I have permission to do that. Could any of you help me with that?